at this point in, i don't know, a good decade. and i don't know how well he sees anymore. and i'm not so sure that he hears very well, either. so speak up in your interview. but he just saw that i had all this sort of belong hair. and that was in my face. and he went hey, you know, how are you doing? then he sort of went, oh, my god, it's you, tatum. and i went, yes, dad, it's me. how are you? >> the word "awkward" could have been invent for that moment. >> but we sort of laughed about it. that's how we are. we laughed about it. >> is he basically just an incurable romantic do you think your dad? >> totally. >> he loves women? >> you're so right. that is totally it. does that excuse terrible parenting? no. but that's it. he's just -- that's his whole life. and he doesn't understand anybody that isn't like that. because i'm not. i'm much more practical. >> we're going to -- incurable man of many tensions, mr. mcenroe after the break. >> oh, sure.